The Chosen One

Yoda je reko u AOTC-u da su Jedii presigurni u sebe cak i oni stariji i iskusniji.Kad je nekov presiguran u sebe onda to vodi ka aroganciji.Sto se tice arogancije Lucas je sam reko da Sila nije u balansu zbog njihove arogancije u intervjuu,no ne znaci da su svi bili takvi.

Nije TO važno, nego je Tila rekla da je zbog TOGA Sila neuravnotežena.

Ne, nego se koristila u loše svrhe. Da malo je munjeno da je Sithovi kao ne smiju koristit.

Ona ravnoteža o kojoj se u filmu priča je donesena u VI. Točka.

Ti misliš na ravnotežu u Jedi: Sith omjeru.

I nikako se ne slažem da je Sidious jači od Yode. Vader je Sidiousa ubio sam tak, a Yodu ne bi mogao nikako.

A i glupo je da se Sidious "nije stigao" branit. Malo retardirano.

Anyway, Damnum, malo pročitaj po netu o tom. Vidit ćeš da smo u pravu.

May the Force be with you.



Da, ali Sila još uvijek ne bi bila u ravnoteži kad bi se ti Jediji opametili. To je važno

Ljudi ja vam kazem sto je LUCAS REKO,a njegova rijec je ZAKON,a vi i dalje derete po svom.

Ma da. Imaš pravo. Lukas majka!

On je i to rekao, ali PONAVLJAM sila bi i dalje bila u *** materinoj. Mora ubit Sidiousa. To je ono glavno uravnotežavanje sile.

Najvjerojatnije jer on nije dao Jediima da potpuno osjete Silu

DARTH TILAKolko sam ja upucena nakon smrti Sidiusa Sith Order nije nestao.Sidius se kloniro.

To je EU... nemoj njega stavljat u ovu raspravu...

Evo jednog objašnjenja (recimo)...

The book also really crystalizes the concept of The Force in a coherent way. As we know through exposition in the films, the darkside has been growing stronger and this makes things more difficult for the Jedi to figure things out. The book pretty much explains why:

Basically, (in an analogy that Dooku expresses while thinking to himself in the text) the Jedi only view The Force with 1 eye open. The Jedi are so pious in their reluctance to touch the dark side in any way that they in effect have a disadvantage. That's because there is only ONE Force... and the Jedi are only tapped into half of it. It is embracing the dark side that allows one to fully comprehend the nature of The Force and wield all of its power. And it's not just evil stuff like force lightening and such. Tapping into the dark side is also what allows one to see the future (notice that Yoda always claims the future is "cloudy" or "in motion"... that's because he cannot see through the dark side) and also see events and people in crystal clarity instead of just hazy thoughts, visions, or feelings.

This is also expressed in the book when Yoda, for probably the first time ever, just barely starts to tap into the dark side when he is concentrating. And at that moment he can actually sense and feel Sidious for the first time... and can even tell that he is on Coruscant. And this stuff had to come straight from Lucas, given its nature.

Ravnoteža je donesena kada je Palpatine ubijen i Anakin se vratio na svijetlu stranu. Svojim korištenjem tamne strane, Palpatine je "malo" pretjerao (koliko sam shvatio dosad, tamna strana jača ako je netko stvarno jak koristi, tj. kao što je Junior rekao, zloupotrebljava, no vjerojatno griješim(o)) i time narušio ravnotežu. IMO, ravnoteža se može postići samo ako nitko ne koristi tamnu stranu, tj. dok netko drugi koristi svijetlu i sve drži pod kontrolom (jer dovoljno je jaka sama po sebi, ne treba je netko još i koristiti), u ovom slučaju Jediji. Anakin je ispunio proročanstvo u ROTJ kada je ubio Palpatina i sam umro.

Sve je ovo IMO i nadam se da ima imalo smisla.

Ovo gore je iz knjige Labyrinth of Evil koja uskoro izlazi. Tip ju je pročitao pa zna neke stvari

Obi-Wan JuniorI nikako se ne slažem da je Sidious jači od Yode. Vader je Sidiousa ubio sam tak, a Yodu ne bi mogao nikako.

A i glupo je da se Sidious "nije stigao" branit. Malo retardirano.

Gledat ćeš Episode III pa će ti sve biti jasnije što se tiče Yode i Sidiousa - idi na Spoilere.

Ne da se Sidious nije stigao braniti, nego ga je Vader iznenadio, on nije nikako očekivao da će se ovaj okrenuti protiv njega. Koncentrirao se na ubijanje Lukea, pa nije osjetio iznenadnu promjenu u Vaderu.


@Orion: Ne kužim kakav bi to balance bio kada bi postojali samo Jediji. Svaki novčić ima dvije strane, pa tako i Sila. Da je ravnoteža postignuta u Ep VI bi bilo tumačenje Jedija, a ne objektivnog promatrača.

Lord Damnum@Orion: Ne kužim kakav bi to balance bio kada bi postojali samo Jediji. Svaki novčić ima dvije strane, pa tako i Sila. Da je ravnoteža postignuta u Ep VI bi bilo tumačenje Jedija, a ne objektivnog promatrača.

Bah.. neznam ni sam... rijetki su uspjeli (ja nisam jedan od njih) potpuno shvatit cijelu priču oko Sile, Jedija, Sitha, tamne i svijetle strane... Kao što rekoh, ono gore je moje mišljenje, koje je možda krivo. Iz iskustva znam da što više ulaziš u taku raspravu sve više se zapetljaš u nju. Zna se samo da će Sila povratiti ravnotežu kada Sithi umru (a vjerojatno i Jediji trebaju biti istrebljeni u najgorem slučaju tumačenja proročanstva) i da je Anakin taj koji će to napravit. Ne znam...

Znam, i ja se zapetljavam što više razmišljam o tome. Sad više nemam pojma šta da mislim. Imam argumente i za Ep III i Ep VI.

i zato san ja dark jedi all the way.... prepuštam igranje spasilaca/osvajaca/XYZ jedijim i Sithovima dok se ja lagano relaxam....

Sleep with an one eye open.

fućkaš ravnotežu, ko' jači taj kvači. Bilo ravnoteže il' ne...

Dark jediji su zakon!!

dark jediji ovo, dark jediji ono.....a nitko do sada nije pravo objasnio tko su dark jediji...

Dark Jedii su Force useri koji koriste obe strane sile.Tako su i dobili naziv,dio Dark predstavlja tamnu stranu Sile,a Jedi predstavlje svijetlu stranu Sile.

Imperial admiral
Anakin je izabrani da donese ravnotežu u silu, ali ga je to malo omelo u EPIII gdje je prešao na Tamnu Stranu, ali je ipak napravio svoj cilj u EPVI

Uz pomoć Lukea, čiju ulogu u vraćanju oca na svijetlu stranu (scena kada Vader umire u VI dijelu) vijeće ranije predvidjelo...

DARTH TILADark Jedii su Force useri koji koriste obe strane sile.Tako su i dobili naziv,dio Dark predstavlja tamnu stranu Sile,a Jedi predstavlje svijetlu stranu Sile.

Hmmm. Ja mislim da su Tamni Jediji osobe koje se koriste tamnom stranom Sile a da pri tom ne prekticiraju Sith običaje, magiju i slično. Dakle, kao šta i ime kaže, koriste iste običaje kao i Jediji ali na tamnoj strani.

Ja sam ovo našao na Star Wars RP stranici, i prema tome se ravnam... Dosta je lijepo objašnjeno...

Dark Jedi

After a few millennia of study some of the Jedi students inevitably found the Dark Side of the Force. Likely others had found it before, just not recognized it for what it was. So it stands in history that the Order of the Dark Jedi arose some 2000 years after the Jedi. The original Dark Jedi were fugitives from the Jedi, shunned and run-off for their interests in the Dark arts. They were forbidden by the Jedi Council to pursue their studies and so left to be free to pursue them as they saw fit.

Though a Dark Jedi has not always been a part of the larger body of the Dark Jedi Order, surely the most powerful of them have been. Because of the dedicated study and somewhat cooperative sharing of lessons, a Dark Jedi who joined the order was much more able to grow in power than one who stayed rogue. Many people falsely think that the Dark Jedi are poorly organized with no desire for organization or leadership. Not exactly true. They are rebellious and often the leaders do not retain influence for long periods of time due to challenges for their power. But as long as the leader is the most powerful among the group they are grudgingly accepted as the leader.

The ideals of the larger body of Dark Jedi have largely been lost to obscurity through many millennia of purges and lulls in the group’s numbers. What has survived describes the Dark Jedi as vindictive, spiteful monsters bent on revenge against the Jedi for shunning them and casting them out so long ago. Though few know the true source of and reason for the lust for vengeance. The scrolls that have survived from the height of the Dark Jedi Order’s power indicate that the best Dark Jedi though always ready to fight, hold back and know when and if to fight. There is no point in seeking vengeance if the seeker dies before it is achieved.

The Dark Jedi do not seek vengeance alone, they also seek power and a recognition for their greatness. They wish for all the galaxy to praise them and serve them. Though they often lack the patience to cultivate their plans to fruition, those Dark Jedi who manage to, have given scares to many a Jedi task force. The determination to achieve their goals that lack of conscience in doing so, have wrought much pain and destruction all across the galaxy.

For a Dark Jedi Apprentice to be worthy of Knighthood, the scrolls say the apprentice must have certain qualities. Though vague on what those qualities are, they mention a lust to receive glory for their work, for what they can do with the Force. As well as a great skill with weapons and in combat, the scrolls also insist upon the ability to hold back from certain death, to swallow their pride just enough to wait until the moment is better suited to granting them success.

For a Dark Jedi Knight to become a Master, there are yet more requirements, though still vague the scrolls insist upon a strong control of their passions, and desire for vengeance, along with a devious mind constantly working to achieve the goals of the Order. The Dark Jedi Master must be an even more capable fighter than the Knights, but always know when to fight and when to hold back because the moment is not right. The first Dark Jedi to take the reins of the group wrote the Dark Jedi Code, some take it as a mockery of the Jedi Code and perhaps that was his intent, but hidden within it’s lines lie the keys to tapping untold energy spawned from the Dark Side of the Force. Again like the Jedi Code, the Dark Jedi Code is rarely written in its entirety with only a four-line excerpt serving in the stead of the larger volume. That four-line ‘Code’ is as follows:

There is no Guidance: There is Control.

There is no Unity: There is Strength.

There is no End: There is Eternity.

There is no Defeat: There is Glory.

Although this is a relatively tiny portion of the entire Code it, like the Jedi Code, provides a strong outline of what it is to be a Dark Jedi and how to be one. As with the Jedi Code, the full discussion of the excerpt is better suited to another endeavor. Dark Jedi students must remember that if they wish to fully grasp the power that lay before them, they must fully grasp the concepts of this short quatrain.

e aiden, kad nam se vračaš na EA? čovječe, mi dark jediji rulamo!!!!!!!

pa njegov lik je otegnuo papke zar ne?